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<itunes:title>AI Criticism Has a Decades-Long History w/ Ben Tarnoff</itunes:title>
<title>AI Criticism Has a Decades-Long History w/ Ben Tarnoff</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff to discuss the ELIZA chatbot created by Joseph Weizenbaum in the 1960s and how it led him to develop a critical perspective on AI and computing that deserves more attention during this wave of AI hype.<br/> <br/>Ben Tarnoff writes about technology and politics. He is a founding editor of Logic, and author of <a href='https://guardianbookshop.com/internet-for-the-people-9781839762024'><em>Internet for the People: The Fight for Our Digital Future</em></a>. You can follow Ben on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bentarnoff'>@bentarnoff</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Ben wrote <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/25/joseph-weizenbaum-inventor-eliza-chatbot-turned-against-artificial-intelligence-ai'>a long article about Weizenbaum and what we can learn from his work</a> for <em>The Guardian</em>.</li><li>Paris wrote <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-chatgpt-revolution-is-another'>a skeptical perspective on AI hype</a> and the promises of ChatGPT in Disconnect.</li><li>Zachary Loeb has also <a href='https://librarianshipwreck.wordpress.com/2023/01/26/computers-enable-fantasies-on-the-continued-relevance-of-weizenbaums-warnings/'>written</a> about Weizenbaum’s work and perspective on AI and computing.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Ben Tarnoff to discuss the ELIZA chatbot created by Joseph Weizenbaum in the 1960s and how it led him to develop a critical perspective on AI and computing that deserves more attention during this wave of AI hype.<br/> <br/>Ben Tarnoff writes about technology and politics. He is a founding editor of Logic, and author of <a href='https://guardianbookshop.com/internet-for-the-people-9781839762024'><em>Internet for the People: The Fight for Our Digital Future</em></a>. You can follow Ben on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bentarnoff'>@bentarnoff</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Ben wrote <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/25/joseph-weizenbaum-inventor-eliza-chatbot-turned-against-artificial-intelligence-ai'>a long article about Weizenbaum and what we can learn from his work</a> for <em>The Guardian</em>.</li><li>Paris wrote <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-chatgpt-revolution-is-another'>a skeptical perspective on AI hype</a> and the promises of ChatGPT in Disconnect.</li><li>Zachary Loeb has also <a href='https://librarianshipwreck.wordpress.com/2023/01/26/computers-enable-fantasies-on-the-continued-relevance-of-weizenbaums-warnings/'>written</a> about Weizenbaum’s work and perspective on AI and computing.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Molly White to discuss Sam Bankman-Fried having his bail revoked and Sam Altman’s plan to scan all of our irises to get us into crypto and supposedly protect us from AI.<br/> <br/>Molly White is the creator of Web3 Is Going Just Great and a fellow at the Harvard Library Innovation Lab. You can follow Molly on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF'>@molly0xFFF</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Molly wrote about <a href='https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/issue-36'>Sam Bankman-Fried going to prison</a> and <a href='https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/issue-35-pondering-my-orb'>what’s going on with Worldcoin</a> in her newsletter.</li><li>Paris also <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/dont-look-into-the-orb'>dug into Worldcoin</a> in the Disconnect newsletter.</li><li>The New York Times published <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/technology/ftx-caroline-ellison-bankman-fried.html'>a story about Caroline Ellison</a> based on details provided by Sam Bankman-Fried.</li><li><a href='https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3'>MIT Tech Review</a> and <a href='https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems'>Buzzfeed News</a> did in-depth investigations of Worldcoin and its exploitation of people in the Global South.</li><li>Worldcoin has been shut down in <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/02/kenya-suspends-worldcoin-scans-over-security-privacy-and-financial-concerns/'>Kenya</a> and is under regulatory scrutiny in the <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/28/world-gdpr-concerns/'>European Union</a>.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Molly White to discuss Sam Bankman-Fried having his bail revoked and Sam Altman’s plan to scan all of our irises to get us into crypto and supposedly protect us from AI.<br/> <br/>Molly White is the creator of Web3 Is Going Just Great and a fellow at the Harvard Library Innovation Lab. You can follow Molly on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/molly0xFFF'>@molly0xFFF</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Molly wrote about <a href='https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/issue-36'>Sam Bankman-Fried going to prison</a> and <a href='https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/issue-35-pondering-my-orb'>what’s going on with Worldcoin</a> in her newsletter.</li><li>Paris also <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/dont-look-into-the-orb'>dug into Worldcoin</a> in the Disconnect newsletter.</li><li>The New York Times published <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/technology/ftx-caroline-ellison-bankman-fried.html'>a story about Caroline Ellison</a> based on details provided by Sam Bankman-Fried.</li><li><a href='https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3'>MIT Tech Review</a> and <a href='https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems'>Buzzfeed News</a> did in-depth investigations of Worldcoin and its exploitation of people in the Global South.</li><li>Worldcoin has been shut down in <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/02/kenya-suspends-worldcoin-scans-over-security-privacy-and-financial-concerns/'>Kenya</a> and is under regulatory scrutiny in the <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/28/world-gdpr-concerns/'>European Union</a>.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Edward Ongweso Jr. to discuss how the venture capital industry works, why the technologies it funds don’t deliver on their marketing promises, and how that’s once again being shown in the hype around AI.<br/> <br/>Edward Ongweso Jr. is a freelance journalist, co-host of This Machine Kills, and guest columnist at <em>The Nation</em>. You can follow Ed on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin'>@bigblackjacobin</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Edward wrote about <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/abolish-venture-capitalism/'>the problems with venture capital</a> and <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/artificial-intelligence-silicon-valley/'>what the AI hype shows us about the industry</a> for <em>The Nation</em>. Earlier this year, he wrote about <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2023/03/silicon-valley-bank-rescue-venture-capital-calacanis-sacks-ackman-tantrum.html'>the tantrum VCs threw</a> after the Silicon Valley Bank collapse.</li><li>Paris wrote about where Elon Musk’s <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/elon-musk-wants-to-relive-his-start'>vision for the X superapp</a> comes from, <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/twitters-days-are-numbered'>why his Twitter rebrand isn’t going so well</a>, and <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-chatgpt-revolution-is-another'>why ChatGPT isn’t a revolution</a>.</li><li>In 2020, Sam Harnett wrote about the problem with <a href='https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3668606'>tech media’s coverage of the gig economy</a>.</li><li>Uber used to want to be the “<a href='https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-amazon-of-transportation-inside-effort-2021-9'>Amazon for transportation</a>” and the “<a href='https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/26/20884800/uber-app-announcement-ubereats-safety-transit-updates'>operating system for everyday life</a>.”</li><li><em>TIME</em> reported on how OpenAI lobbying <a href='https://time.com/6288245/openai-eu-lobbying-ai-act/'>watered down EU AI rules</a>.</li><li>Marc Andreessen wrote his pitch for “<a href='https://a16z.com/2023/06/06/ai-will-save-the-world/'>Why AI Will Save the World</a>.”</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Edward Ongweso Jr. to discuss how the venture capital industry works, why the technologies it funds don’t deliver on their marketing promises, and how that’s once again being shown in the hype around AI.<br/> <br/>Edward Ongweso Jr. is a freelance journalist, co-host of This Machine Kills, and guest columnist at <em>The Nation</em>. You can follow Ed on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bigblackjacobin'>@bigblackjacobin</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Edward wrote about <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/abolish-venture-capitalism/'>the problems with venture capital</a> and <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/artificial-intelligence-silicon-valley/'>what the AI hype shows us about the industry</a> for <em>The Nation</em>. Earlier this year, he wrote about <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2023/03/silicon-valley-bank-rescue-venture-capital-calacanis-sacks-ackman-tantrum.html'>the tantrum VCs threw</a> after the Silicon Valley Bank collapse.</li><li>Paris wrote about where Elon Musk’s <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/elon-musk-wants-to-relive-his-start'>vision for the X superapp</a> comes from, <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/twitters-days-are-numbered'>why his Twitter rebrand isn’t going so well</a>, and <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-chatgpt-revolution-is-another'>why ChatGPT isn’t a revolution</a>.</li><li>In 2020, Sam Harnett wrote about the problem with <a href='https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3668606'>tech media’s coverage of the gig economy</a>.</li><li>Uber used to want to be the “<a href='https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-amazon-of-transportation-inside-effort-2021-9'>Amazon for transportation</a>” and the “<a href='https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/26/20884800/uber-app-announcement-ubereats-safety-transit-updates'>operating system for everyday life</a>.”</li><li><em>TIME</em> reported on how OpenAI lobbying <a href='https://time.com/6288245/openai-eu-lobbying-ai-act/'>watered down EU AI rules</a>.</li><li>Marc Andreessen wrote his pitch for “<a href='https://a16z.com/2023/06/06/ai-will-save-the-world/'>Why AI Will Save the World</a>.”</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<title>The Right is Building Its Own Platforms w/ Jacob Silverman</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Jacob Silverman to discuss how the right-wing of the tech industry are funding media platforms like Rumble to reshape the political discourse and why they’re helping Robert F. Kennedy Jr. challenge Joe Biden.<br/> <br/>Jacob Silverman is a journalist and the co-author of <em>Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud</em>. He’s also the host of The Naked Emperor on CBC Podcasts. You can check out Jacob’s <a href='https://www.jacobsilverman.com'>Substack</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Jacob wrote about <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/society/howreumbleisplanningtobethepremiermagaplatform/'>Rumble as a MAGA platform</a>, <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2023/06/robert-f-kennedy-jr-joe-rogan-elon-musk-sacks-vaccines-ackman-palihapitiya.html'>why tech is boosting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.</a>, <a href='https://newrepublic.com/article/161939/facebook-militia-revolutionary-war-censorship-content'>revolutionary war reenactors getting caught up in Facebook’s purge of militia groups</a>, and <a href='https://newrepublic.com/article/168125/david-sacks-elon-musk-peter-thiel'>David Sacks</a>.</li><li>Mark Zuckerberg chose to <a href='https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/mark-zuckerberg-joel-kaplan-facebook-alex-jones'>go easy on Alex Jones</a> and other right-wing figures on Facebook.</li><li>Trump Media may be <a href='https://qz.com/donald-trump-truth-social-spac-deal-dwac-tmtg-1850605802'>going public via a SPAC merger</a>.</li><li>Darren Blanton was involved in <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-29/inside-the-pro-trump-effort-to-keep-black-voters-from-the-polls'>a scheme to keep Black voters from the polls</a>.</li><li>Wendy Siegelman put together <a href='https://newstracs.com/trump-media-technology-group-rumble-inc-and-cosmic-development/2022/08/14/'>a chart of the connections</a> between Rumble, Trump Media, and other groups.</li><li>Rumble went <a href='https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/15/video-platform-rumble-to-go-public-after-successful-spac-vote.html'>public via SPAC in 2022</a>.</li><li>Brandy Zadrozny <a href='https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-anti-vaccine-push-white-house-rcna89470'>wrote</a> about RFK Jr. and his views for NBC News.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Jacob Silverman to discuss how the right-wing of the tech industry are funding media platforms like Rumble to reshape the political discourse and why they’re helping Robert F. Kennedy Jr. challenge Joe Biden.<br/> <br/>Jacob Silverman is a journalist and the co-author of <em>Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud</em>. He’s also the host of The Naked Emperor on CBC Podcasts. You can check out Jacob’s <a href='https://www.jacobsilverman.com'>Substack</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Jacob wrote about <a href='https://www.thenation.com/article/society/howreumbleisplanningtobethepremiermagaplatform/'>Rumble as a MAGA platform</a>, <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2023/06/robert-f-kennedy-jr-joe-rogan-elon-musk-sacks-vaccines-ackman-palihapitiya.html'>why tech is boosting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.</a>, <a href='https://newrepublic.com/article/161939/facebook-militia-revolutionary-war-censorship-content'>revolutionary war reenactors getting caught up in Facebook’s purge of militia groups</a>, and <a href='https://newrepublic.com/article/168125/david-sacks-elon-musk-peter-thiel'>David Sacks</a>.</li><li>Mark Zuckerberg chose to <a href='https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/mark-zuckerberg-joel-kaplan-facebook-alex-jones'>go easy on Alex Jones</a> and other right-wing figures on Facebook.</li><li>Trump Media may be <a href='https://qz.com/donald-trump-truth-social-spac-deal-dwac-tmtg-1850605802'>going public via a SPAC merger</a>.</li><li>Darren Blanton was involved in <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-29/inside-the-pro-trump-effort-to-keep-black-voters-from-the-polls'>a scheme to keep Black voters from the polls</a>.</li><li>Wendy Siegelman put together <a href='https://newstracs.com/trump-media-technology-group-rumble-inc-and-cosmic-development/2022/08/14/'>a chart of the connections</a> between Rumble, Trump Media, and other groups.</li><li>Rumble went <a href='https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/15/video-platform-rumble-to-go-public-after-successful-spac-vote.html'>public via SPAC in 2022</a>.</li><li>Brandy Zadrozny <a href='https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/rfk-jr-anti-vaccine-push-white-house-rcna89470'>wrote</a> about RFK Jr. and his views for NBC News.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<itunes:title>Are UFOs Really Out There? w/ Kelsey Atherton</itunes:title>
<title>Are UFOs Really Out There? w/ Kelsey Atherton</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Kelsey Atherton to discuss the renewed interest in UFOs, where the conspiracy theories of aliens in the sky came from, and whether flying saucers might really be watching us.<br/> <br/>Kelsey Atherton is a military technology journalist. He contributes to Popular Science and has written for Slate. Follow Kelsey on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/AthertonKD'>@AthertonKD</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Kelsey has written about how the military’s <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2020/05/ufo-videos-pentagon-disclosures-national-security.html'>culture</a> of <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2021/06/pentagon-ufo-uap-report-military-sensors.html'>secrecy</a> breeds UFO conspiracy theories, why <a href='https://www.popsci.com/technology/unidentified-flying-objects-sensor-change/'>sensors</a> are an important aspect to consider, and the truth of <a href='https://www.popsci.com/technology/what-is-area-51/'>Area 51</a>.</li><li>A U-2 pilot <a href='https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1159007203/selfie-china-balloon-photo'>took a selfie</a> with the Chinese balloon shot down earlier this year.</li><li>The military later <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/chinese-spy-balloon-shot-information-biden'>confirmed</a> the Chinese balloon was not actually spying on the United States.</li><li>One of the balloons that were shot down likely <a href='https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf'>belonged</a> to a hobbyist group called the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade.</li><li>In 2019, a bunch of people online planned to hold a “<a href='https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/area51-aliens-ufos-military-nevada-1241425/'>Naruto run</a>” at Area 51.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Kelsey Atherton to discuss the renewed interest in UFOs, where the conspiracy theories of aliens in the sky came from, and whether flying saucers might really be watching us.<br/> <br/>Kelsey Atherton is a military technology journalist. He contributes to Popular Science and has written for Slate. Follow Kelsey on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/AthertonKD'>@AthertonKD</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Kelsey has written about how the military’s <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2020/05/ufo-videos-pentagon-disclosures-national-security.html'>culture</a> of <a href='https://slate.com/technology/2021/06/pentagon-ufo-uap-report-military-sensors.html'>secrecy</a> breeds UFO conspiracy theories, why <a href='https://www.popsci.com/technology/unidentified-flying-objects-sensor-change/'>sensors</a> are an important aspect to consider, and the truth of <a href='https://www.popsci.com/technology/what-is-area-51/'>Area 51</a>.</li><li>A U-2 pilot <a href='https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1159007203/selfie-china-balloon-photo'>took a selfie</a> with the Chinese balloon shot down earlier this year.</li><li>The military later <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/29/chinese-spy-balloon-shot-information-biden'>confirmed</a> the Chinese balloon was not actually spying on the United States.</li><li>One of the balloons that were shot down likely <a href='https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/aircraft-propulsion/hobby-clubs-missing-balloon-feared-shot-down-usaf'>belonged</a> to a hobbyist group called the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade.</li><li>In 2019, a bunch of people online planned to hold a “<a href='https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/area51-aliens-ufos-military-nevada-1241425/'>Naruto run</a>” at Area 51.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<itunes:title>Big Tech Won’t Revitalize Indigenous Languages w/ Keoni Mahelona</itunes:title>
<title>Big Tech Won’t Revitalize Indigenous Languages w/ Keoni Mahelona</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Keoni Mahelona to discuss the colonial nature of data extraction by major tech companies, and how Te Hiku takes a very different approach to revitalize the Māori language.<br/> <br/>Keoni Mahelona is the Chief Technology Officer at Te Hiku Media. Follow Keoni on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/mahelona'>@mahelona</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Keoni and some of his colleagues <a href='https://blog.papareo.nz/whisper-is-another-case-study-in-colonisation/'>wrote</a> about why OpenAI’s Whisper is another example of colonialism.</li><li><a href='https://www.wired.co.uk/article/maori-language-tech'>Wired</a> and <a href='https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/22/1050394/artificial-intelligence-for-the-people/'>MIT Tech Review</a> have written about the work Te Hiku is doing with Māori language in Aotearoa New Zealand.</li><li>Mark Zuckerberg owns <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/28/mark-zuckerberg-110-acres-hawaii'>a lot of land in Hawaiʻi</a>, and it’s quite controversial.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Keoni Mahelona to discuss the colonial nature of data extraction by major tech companies, and how Te Hiku takes a very different approach to revitalize the Māori language.<br/> <br/>Keoni Mahelona is the Chief Technology Officer at Te Hiku Media. Follow Keoni on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/mahelona'>@mahelona</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Keoni and some of his colleagues <a href='https://blog.papareo.nz/whisper-is-another-case-study-in-colonisation/'>wrote</a> about why OpenAI’s Whisper is another example of colonialism.</li><li><a href='https://www.wired.co.uk/article/maori-language-tech'>Wired</a> and <a href='https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/22/1050394/artificial-intelligence-for-the-people/'>MIT Tech Review</a> have written about the work Te Hiku is doing with Māori language in Aotearoa New Zealand.</li><li>Mark Zuckerberg owns <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/28/mark-zuckerberg-110-acres-hawaii'>a lot of land in Hawaiʻi</a>, and it’s quite controversial.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<itunes:title>How Israel Uses Occupation to Develop Military Tech w/ Antony Loewenstein</itunes:title>
<title>How Israel Uses Occupation to Develop Military Tech w/ Antony Loewenstein</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Antony Loewenstein to discuss how the Israeli weapons industry tests new military technologies on occupied Palestinians before selling them internationally.<br/> <br/>Antony Loewenstein is an independent journalist who’s written for the <em>New York Times</em> and the <em>Guardian</em>. He’s the author of <a href='https://www.versobooks.com/en-ca/products/2684-the-palestine-laboratory'><em>The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports The Technology Of Occupation Around The World</em></a>. Follow Antony on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/antloewenstein'>@antloewenstein</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Excerpts from Antony’s book have been published by <a href='https://inthesetimes.com/article/how-israeli-spyware-endangers-activists'>In These Times</a>, <a href='https://declassifiedaus.org/2023/05/31/the-israeli-company-hacking-into-your-locked-mobile-phone/'>Declassified Australia</a>, and Jamal Khashoggi-founded <a href='https://dawnmena.org/the-technology-of-occupation-has-become-one-of-israels-main-exports/'>Democracy for the Arab World Now</a>. Antony also wrote a good <a href='https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-arms-industry-palestinians-guinea-pigs'>overview of the book</a> for Middle East Eye.</li><li><a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/'>Amnesty International</a>, <a href='https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution'>Human Rights Watch</a>, <a href='https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid'>B’Tselem</a>, and <a href='https://www.yesh-din.org/en/the-occupation-of-the-west-bank-and-the-crime-of-apartheid-legal-opinion/'>Yesh Din</a> have called Israel’s actions apartheid.</li><li>Google and Amazon workers protested <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/12/google-amazon-workers-condemn-project-nimbus-israeli-military-contract'>Project Nimbus</a>. They also faced <a href='https://theintercept.com/2022/05/18/google-amazon-israel-military-nimbus/'>shareholder revolts</a> over the project.</li><li>Airbnb <a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2020/12/airbnb-listing-company-is-deeply-compromised-by-israeli-settlement-properties/'>lists properties</a> in illegal Israeli settlements.</li><li><a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/05/israel-opt-israeli-authorities-are-using-facial-recognition-technology-to-entrench-apartheid/'>Red Wolf</a> is deployed at checkpoints to scan Palestinians’ faces and add them to surveillance databases without their consent.</li><li>Facebook has been criticized for <a href='https://theintercept.com/2022/09/21/facebook-censorship-palestine-israel-algorithm/'>removing Palestinians’ posts</a>.</li><li>The <em>New York Times</em> reported on Israel’s use of NSO Group surveillance tools for <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel-spyware.html'>diplomatic leverage</a>.</li><li>The Committee to Protect Journalists found Israel <a href='https://cpj.org/reports/2023/05/deadly-pattern-20-journalists-died-by-israeli-military-fire-in-22-years-no-one-has-been-held-accountable/'>killed 20 journalists</a>.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Antony Loewenstein to discuss how the Israeli weapons industry tests new military technologies on occupied Palestinians before selling them internationally.<br/> <br/>Antony Loewenstein is an independent journalist who’s written for the <em>New York Times</em> and the <em>Guardian</em>. He’s the author of <a href='https://www.versobooks.com/en-ca/products/2684-the-palestine-laboratory'><em>The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports The Technology Of Occupation Around The World</em></a>. Follow Antony on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/antloewenstein'>@antloewenstein</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Excerpts from Antony’s book have been published by <a href='https://inthesetimes.com/article/how-israeli-spyware-endangers-activists'>In These Times</a>, <a href='https://declassifiedaus.org/2023/05/31/the-israeli-company-hacking-into-your-locked-mobile-phone/'>Declassified Australia</a>, and Jamal Khashoggi-founded <a href='https://dawnmena.org/the-technology-of-occupation-has-become-one-of-israels-main-exports/'>Democracy for the Arab World Now</a>. Antony also wrote a good <a href='https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-arms-industry-palestinians-guinea-pigs'>overview of the book</a> for Middle East Eye.</li><li><a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/'>Amnesty International</a>, <a href='https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution'>Human Rights Watch</a>, <a href='https://www.btselem.org/topic/apartheid'>B’Tselem</a>, and <a href='https://www.yesh-din.org/en/the-occupation-of-the-west-bank-and-the-crime-of-apartheid-legal-opinion/'>Yesh Din</a> have called Israel’s actions apartheid.</li><li>Google and Amazon workers protested <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/12/google-amazon-workers-condemn-project-nimbus-israeli-military-contract'>Project Nimbus</a>. They also faced <a href='https://theintercept.com/2022/05/18/google-amazon-israel-military-nimbus/'>shareholder revolts</a> over the project.</li><li>Airbnb <a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2020/12/airbnb-listing-company-is-deeply-compromised-by-israeli-settlement-properties/'>lists properties</a> in illegal Israeli settlements.</li><li><a href='https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/05/israel-opt-israeli-authorities-are-using-facial-recognition-technology-to-entrench-apartheid/'>Red Wolf</a> is deployed at checkpoints to scan Palestinians’ faces and add them to surveillance databases without their consent.</li><li>Facebook has been criticized for <a href='https://theintercept.com/2022/09/21/facebook-censorship-palestine-israel-algorithm/'>removing Palestinians’ posts</a>.</li><li>The <em>New York Times</em> reported on Israel’s use of NSO Group surveillance tools for <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/28/magazine/nso-group-israel-spyware.html'>diplomatic leverage</a>.</li><li>The Committee to Protect Journalists found Israel <a href='https://cpj.org/reports/2023/05/deadly-pattern-20-journalists-died-by-israeli-military-fire-in-22-years-no-one-has-been-held-accountable/'>killed 20 journalists</a>.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<itunes:title>Google and Meta Are Fighting with Canada w/ David Moscrop</itunes:title>
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<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by David Moscrop to discuss Canada’s plan to make Google and Meta pay news publishers, and what might happened now that they’re threatening to pull Canadian news from their platforms.<br/> <br/>David Moscrop is a freelance writer and the author of <em>Too Dumb for Democracy?: Why We Make Bad Political Decisions and How We Can Make Better Ones</em>. Follow David on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/David_Moscrop'>@David_Moscrop</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>David Moscrop <a href='https://davidmoscrop.substack.com/p/the-battle-between-tech-giants-and'>wrote</a> about the larger context of the Online News Bill in his Substack newsletter.</li><li>Paris also <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/google-and-meta-go-to-war-with-canada'>wrote</a> about Google and Meta threatening to pull news in Canada and why Canada should take a hard line with them.</li><li>Sandy Garossino <a href='https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/30/opinion/mobsters-google-meta-online-news-canada'>wrote</a> about how much money Google and Meta extract from Canada.</li><li>Media conglomerates Postmedia and Nordstar are <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toronto-star-nordstar-talks-merger-postmedia-1.6890659'>in talks to merge</a>.</li><li>California is also <a href='https://apnews.com/article/google-meta-big-tech-journalism-fee-california-lawmakers-ec3a926252f59e589e5d48b067c7904e'>looking</a> at a similar process to force Google and Meta to pay media in that state.</li><li>On Wednesday, the Canadian government <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/online-news-act-google-facebook-meta-1.6897186'>pulled advertising</a> from Facebook and Instagram, but said Google was still talking to find a way forward. The government said it won’t back down, and two opposition parties — the New Democratic Party and Bloc Quebecois — voiced their support.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by David Moscrop to discuss Canada’s plan to make Google and Meta pay news publishers, and what might happened now that they’re threatening to pull Canadian news from their platforms.<br/> <br/>David Moscrop is a freelance writer and the author of <em>Too Dumb for Democracy?: Why We Make Bad Political Decisions and How We Can Make Better Ones</em>. Follow David on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/David_Moscrop'>@David_Moscrop</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>David Moscrop <a href='https://davidmoscrop.substack.com/p/the-battle-between-tech-giants-and'>wrote</a> about the larger context of the Online News Bill in his Substack newsletter.</li><li>Paris also <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/google-and-meta-go-to-war-with-canada'>wrote</a> about Google and Meta threatening to pull news in Canada and why Canada should take a hard line with them.</li><li>Sandy Garossino <a href='https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/30/opinion/mobsters-google-meta-online-news-canada'>wrote</a> about how much money Google and Meta extract from Canada.</li><li>Media conglomerates Postmedia and Nordstar are <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/toronto-star-nordstar-talks-merger-postmedia-1.6890659'>in talks to merge</a>.</li><li>California is also <a href='https://apnews.com/article/google-meta-big-tech-journalism-fee-california-lawmakers-ec3a926252f59e589e5d48b067c7904e'>looking</a> at a similar process to force Google and Meta to pay media in that state.</li><li>On Wednesday, the Canadian government <a href='https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/online-news-act-google-facebook-meta-1.6897186'>pulled advertising</a> from Facebook and Instagram, but said Google was still talking to find a way forward. The government said it won’t back down, and two opposition parties — the New Democratic Party and Bloc Quebecois — voiced their support.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
<itunes:author>Paris Marx, David Moscrop</itunes:author>
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<itunes:title>Why AI is a Threat to Artists w/ Molly Crabapple</itunes:title>
<title>Why AI is a Threat to Artists w/ Molly Crabapple</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Molly Crabapple to discuss why AI image generation tools are a threat to illustrators and why we need to refuse the idea that Silicon Valley’s visions of technology are inevitable.<br/> <br/>Molly Crabapple is an artist and writer based in New York. She is the author of two books, <em>Drawing Blood</em> and <em>Brothers of the Gun</em> with Marwan Hisham. Follow Molly on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple'>@mollycrabapple</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Molly wrote <a href='https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-12-21/artificial-intelligence-artists-stability-ai-digital-images'>an op-ed for the <em>LA Times</em></a> about the threat of AI-generated tools for artists, and <a href='https://artisticinquiry.org/AI-Open-Letter'>co-wrote an open letter</a> about restricting AI illustration for the Center for Artistic Inquiry and Reporting.</li><li>Karla Ortiz <a href='https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/stability-ai-art-karla-ortiz-17854282.php'>wrote</a> about how teaching an AI to copy an artist’s style isn’t democratization; it’s theft.</li><li>Corridor Digital <a href='https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/corridor-digital-ai-anime'>claimed</a> they were “democratizing” animation by using AI trained on <em>Vampire Hunter D</em> to generate their own animated video.</li><li>Rest of World <a href='https://restofworld.org/2023/ai-image-china-video-game-layoffs/'>reported</a> on how AI was being used to take video game illustrators’ jobs in China.</li><li>AI is already being used to <a href='https://gizmodo.com/chatgpt-ai-buzzfeed-news-journalism-existential-threat-1849869364'>justify</a> laying off journalists.</li><li>In February, Creative Commons <a href='https://creativecommons.org/2023/02/17/fair-use-training-generative-ai/'>published</a> an article arguing that using copyrighted works to train generative AI should be considered fair use.</li><li>Stable Diffusion and Midjourney were hit with <a href='https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/16/23557098/generative-ai-art-copyright-legal-lawsuit-stable-diffusion-midjourney-deviantart'>a copyright lawsuit</a>, and Getty Images <a href='https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/17/23558516/ai-art-copyright-stable-diffusion-getty-images-lawsuit'>launched</a> its own suit against Stable Diffusion.</li><li>The US Copyright Office says AI generated images are <a href='https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/ai-generator-art-text-us-copyright-policy-1234661683/'>not eligible</a> for copyright protection.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Molly Crabapple to discuss why AI image generation tools are a threat to illustrators and why we need to refuse the idea that Silicon Valley’s visions of technology are inevitable.<br/> <br/>Molly Crabapple is an artist and writer based in New York. She is the author of two books, <em>Drawing Blood</em> and <em>Brothers of the Gun</em> with Marwan Hisham. Follow Molly on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple'>@mollycrabapple</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Molly wrote <a href='https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-12-21/artificial-intelligence-artists-stability-ai-digital-images'>an op-ed for the <em>LA Times</em></a> about the threat of AI-generated tools for artists, and <a href='https://artisticinquiry.org/AI-Open-Letter'>co-wrote an open letter</a> about restricting AI illustration for the Center for Artistic Inquiry and Reporting.</li><li>Karla Ortiz <a href='https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/stability-ai-art-karla-ortiz-17854282.php'>wrote</a> about how teaching an AI to copy an artist’s style isn’t democratization; it’s theft.</li><li>Corridor Digital <a href='https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/corridor-digital-ai-anime'>claimed</a> they were “democratizing” animation by using AI trained on <em>Vampire Hunter D</em> to generate their own animated video.</li><li>Rest of World <a href='https://restofworld.org/2023/ai-image-china-video-game-layoffs/'>reported</a> on how AI was being used to take video game illustrators’ jobs in China.</li><li>AI is already being used to <a href='https://gizmodo.com/chatgpt-ai-buzzfeed-news-journalism-existential-threat-1849869364'>justify</a> laying off journalists.</li><li>In February, Creative Commons <a href='https://creativecommons.org/2023/02/17/fair-use-training-generative-ai/'>published</a> an article arguing that using copyrighted works to train generative AI should be considered fair use.</li><li>Stable Diffusion and Midjourney were hit with <a href='https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/16/23557098/generative-ai-art-copyright-legal-lawsuit-stable-diffusion-midjourney-deviantart'>a copyright lawsuit</a>, and Getty Images <a href='https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/17/23558516/ai-art-copyright-stable-diffusion-getty-images-lawsuit'>launched</a> its own suit against Stable Diffusion.</li><li>The US Copyright Office says AI generated images are <a href='https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/ai-generator-art-text-us-copyright-policy-1234661683/'>not eligible</a> for copyright protection.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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<itunes:title>We Don’t Need the Apple Vision Pro w/ Brian Merchant</itunes:title>
<title>We Don’t Need the Apple Vision Pro w/ Brian Merchant</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Brian Merchant to discuss the vision of the future of computing offered by Apple’s Vision Pro headset and why it should be resisted.<br/> <br/>Brian Merchant is the technology columnist at the LA Times. He’s also the author of <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9780316546249'><em>The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone</em></a> and <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9780316487740'><em>Blood in the Machine: The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech</em></a>. Follow Brian on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bcmerchant'>@bcmerchant</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Paris will be in Edmonton, Alberta on June 24. More info <a href='https://www.michaeljanz.ca/parismarx'>here</a>.</li><li>Brian wrote a column about the <a href='https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-06-08/apple-makes-its-own-reality-with-new-headset-just-dont-call-it-the-metaverse'>Apple Vision Pro </a>for the LA Times, and another about <a href='https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-06-01/column-uber-david-and-goliath'>Uber drivers in California getting payouts</a>.</li><li>Paris also wrote about <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves'>why Apple Vision Pro should be ridiculed</a> for Disconnect.</li><li>David Karpf called virtual reality the “<a href='https://www.wired.com/story/virtual-reality-rich-white-kid-of-technology/'>rich white kid of technology</a>.”</li><li>Meta employees are <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-06-02/meta-quest-3-is-coming-but-employees-aren-t-really-using-vr'>not working in the metaverse</a>.</li><li>Mark Gurman reported on <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-05-18/apple-s-mixed-reality-headset-may-define-tim-cook-s-legacy'>the internal division</a> at Apple over whether to release the Vision Pro in its current form.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></description>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris Marx is joined by Brian Merchant to discuss the vision of the future of computing offered by Apple’s Vision Pro headset and why it should be resisted.<br/> <br/>Brian Merchant is the technology columnist at the LA Times. He’s also the author of <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9780316546249'><em>The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone</em></a> and <a href='https://bookshop.org/a/18331/9780316487740'><em>Blood in the Machine: The Origins of the Rebellion Against Big Tech</em></a>. Follow Brian on Twitter at <a href='https://twitter.com/bcmerchant'>@bcmerchant</a>.<br/><br/>Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Follow the podcast (<a href='https://twitter.com/techwontsaveus'>@techwontsaveus</a>) and host Paris Marx (<a href='https://twitter.com/parismarx'>@parismarx</a>) on Twitter, and support the show on <a href='https://www.patreon.com/techwontsaveus'>Patreon</a>.<br/><br/>The podcast is produced by <a href='https://twitter.com/ES_Wickham'>Eric Wickham</a> and part of the <a href='http://harbingermedianetwork.com/'>Harbinger Media Network</a>.<br/><br/>Also mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li>Paris will be in Edmonton, Alberta on June 24. More info <a href='https://www.michaeljanz.ca/parismarx'>here</a>.</li><li>Brian wrote a column about the <a href='https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-06-08/apple-makes-its-own-reality-with-new-headset-just-dont-call-it-the-metaverse'>Apple Vision Pro </a>for the LA Times, and another about <a href='https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2023-06-01/column-uber-david-and-goliath'>Uber drivers in California getting payouts</a>.</li><li>Paris also wrote about <a href='https://www.disconnect.blog/p/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves'>why Apple Vision Pro should be ridiculed</a> for Disconnect.</li><li>David Karpf called virtual reality the “<a href='https://www.wired.com/story/virtual-reality-rich-white-kid-of-technology/'>rich white kid of technology</a>.”</li><li>Meta employees are <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-06-02/meta-quest-3-is-coming-but-employees-aren-t-really-using-vr'>not working in the metaverse</a>.</li><li>Mark Gurman reported on <a href='https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-05-18/apple-s-mixed-reality-headset-may-define-tim-cook-s-legacy'>the internal division</a> at Apple over whether to release the Vision Pro in its current form.</li></ul><a rel="payment" href="https://patreon.com/techwontsaveus">Support the show</a>]]></content:encoded>
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